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« Reply #15 on Feb 15, 2012, 12:45pm »

Good episode overall, it sort of seemed like the episode from Bones, "The Superhero in the Alley"....as mentioned earlier. Wendy? Eh, she's okay in my book. I really don't understand why Tony and Wendy started to make out...eck. D:

Otherwise, good episode.

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« Reply #16 on Feb 15, 2012, 12:46pm »

When Gibbs was leaning on suspect and Ziva told Tony she appreciated the Honesty from Tony! What was she talking about did tony tell her that he kissed wendy or did he finally say how they broke off their engagement together? What did u guys think of that whole converstation Ziva had with Tony about how honest he use to be to other ppl and i guess about how selfish he is/was? When Ziva went to leave the room Tony put his arm up as to block her when all three was in the room, like he didnt want her to leave them. I think that says alot but they was working too. I like how Ziva had to say Hi to Tony to get his attention for a sec. But i think Wendy kinda of seen how Tony acted around Ziva and knew that he had deep feelings for her at the end when Wendy was like tell her how u feel! I don't know what do you think?

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Re: 9.15 Secrets **Spoilers**
« Reply #17 on Feb 15, 2012, 2:26pm »

I think what Wendy said was that Tony was honest with everyone -- EXCEPT HIMSELF...
And I agree that Wendy seemed to sense that Tony has feelings for Ziva.

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Re: 9.15 Secrets **Spoilers**
« Reply #18 on Feb 15, 2012, 3:16pm »

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Re: 9.15 Secrets **Spoilers**
« Reply #19 on Feb 15, 2012, 4:02pm »

Feb 15, 2012, 9:32am, jo wrote:

I like this one, too. Not as silly as I feared it would be.

As far as Gibbs playing Cupid... I know they all accused him of that, and he laughed and didn't deny it. But after listening to Ducky's convo with Tony, I saw it more as Gibbs trying to help Tony find closure. To me it sounded as tho Tony was pretty torn up when Wendy left him - Gibbs would have been right there with him...

I'm probably in the minority, but I kinda liked Wendy.

I agree with you on the whole closure thing with you. Gibbs was there when it happened and he saw Tony going from one woman to another and chasing after the wrong ones. So, yeah, pretty sure he wanted Tony to "talk" it out.

I liked Wendy until the whole "I'm ready now" part. She hurt him, threw him away and now she's ready and he should jump and go back to her? Please, Tony is better than that. And also, he deserves more then someone else's family, a son who wouldn't want him dead with every look and hate on him for kissing his mom.
And, tbh, I doubt Tony would be happy with her. She's bitchy and looks like she has to be right all the time. Too much work, if you ask me. And I'm not sure Tony can survive another failed relationship.

Don't think Wendy picked up on Tony's feelings for Ziva but she knows him well and she can see someone is on his mind. (I just hope she doesn't think it's her LOL)

I thought the case was pretty good and interesting. Funny, too.

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Re: 9.15 Secrets **Spoilers**
« Reply #20 on Feb 16, 2012, 3:28am »

Feb 15, 2012, 8:47am, armitage wrote:

It just occurred to me that the slumlord's motivation was essentially the classic Scooby-Doo plot, if fake ghosts were replaced with real criminals and Old Man Jenkins started killing Scooby and the gang.

"If people thought this place was haunted (crime-ridden), I could have bought it dirt-cheap. And I would have gotten away with it too, if not for you meddling kids (superheroes)."

OMG ROLMAF LOL!!!!! Yeah that is a classic scooby doo motive $$$$$$$ LOL. Better yet would have been Gibbs pulling off the "dad mask" and it was Skeletor yelling Curses foiled Again!! lol. Sorry in a silly mood with that post . Nah it won't be scooby gang getting greased, it be the patrons of a run down penny arcade that old man jekins want to turn into a Starbucks franchise with urban renewal dollars.

. The only Scooby Doo incarnation that was fun as the first run in the 1969 - 1972 . And to get even with you because now the original theme will be stuck in my head all week. I've posted a you tube link to the original 1969 theme LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chz8TnoznDc

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Re: 9.15 Secrets **Spoilers**
« Reply #21 on Feb 16, 2012, 3:40am »

Feb 15, 2012, 9:32am, jo wrote:

Yeah I agree. First off I got my wish this episode was fun and entertaining but not overly silly (thank god!). I agree Gibbs was trying to force Tony to create some closure whether he got the answers why she walk all those years ago or re start their romance he want Tony to come to terms Wendy. Nah I did not find Wendy to be a horrible person just self deluded thinking Tony would want to risk a new romance with her, other than that she was ok.

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Re: 9.15 Secrets **Spoilers**
« Reply #22 on Feb 16, 2012, 3:46am »

I liked this epiosde, no I loved this episode. And I too actually like Wendy. After seeing last weeks episode, where McGee and Abby were a couple, and Tony and Kate (or not, I didn't really get that), it kind of put me off on the Tiva, McAbby and other combinations-thing. I also do not like the fact that none of the characters is in a stable or any kind of relationship for longer than a couple of months.

I saw all the little and big things I like about NCIS in this episode, it put a smile on my face when McGee and Ziva were eavesdropping, I liked the heart to heart between Tony and Ducky, I loved the way Abby reacted on Wendy. I missed Palmer, poor, poor Palmer, and I liked Vance.

There is one thing I really wonder about though, does Gibbs, with his allmighty eyes, ears and his famous gut, really doesn't know about the feelings of Tony for Ziva and vice versa?

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Re: 9.15 Secrets **Spoilers**
« Reply #23 on Feb 16, 2012, 9:22am »

Feb 16, 2012, 3:46am, pbb wrote:

I agree. In most shows - not all, but most - it seems to me, at least one of the people has a steady relationship. These people are all failures in that department.
And I know someone's going to say Palmer is getting married, but unfortunately he's not a main character. [I wish he were. I missed him in this ep.] And I won't believe he's married until we see the wedding photos.

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I saw all the little and big things I like about NCIS in this episode, it put a smile on my face when McGee and Ziva were eavesdropping, I liked the heart to heart between Tony and Ducky, I loved the way Abby reacted on Wendy. I missed Palmer, poor, poor Palmer, and I liked Vance.

Yes. And Tony jerking open the door. "Guys, I invented that." [or however he said it.] *lol* I was thinking - what a "Tony" thing to do.

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There is one thing I really wonder about though, does Gibbs, with his allmighty eyes, ears and his famous gut, really doesn't know about the feelings of Tony for Ziva and vice versa?

Just my opinion. I think Gibbs is fully aware. I also think he hopes it won't happen - you know his rule about dating a co-worker. I don't think he'd reprimand them in any way if they did have a relationship, but I think he'd be on edge, waiting for it to fail...

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Re: 9.15 Secrets **Spoilers**
« Reply #24 on Feb 16, 2012, 9:59am »

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There is one thing I really wonder about though, does Gibbs, with his allmighty eyes, ears and his famous gut, really doesn't know about the feelings of Tony for Ziva and vice versa?

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He knows. He's ignoring it but he knows. Just remember end of Season 6 and first epi of S7. Maybe before that he was not fully aware, putting it aside as banter, cos he asked McGee to tell him everything. But in S7 there was no denying it. I mean Tony was a Zombie. It's hard to miss that. And he listened to Tony's convo with Saleem.

Gibbs rule is based on his bad experience with Jenny. The thing is Gibbs is lost man when it comes to love. He'll never be able to love anyone as much as he loved his first wife, so all of his relationships were/are doomed.
Yes, he dated Jenny, yes, they were partners, yes, is went badly. But that has nothing to do with them working together. And further more Gibbs and Jenny were on missions, dangerous mission where Tony and Ziva sit behind desks 90% of the time.
So, not the same situation!
I can only say Bones here. The writers did an amazing job (imo) with handling the new relationship.

I'm not saying we have to have a Tiva relationship on the show but everyone sees that it's killing Tony. It's obvious that he has feelings for Ziva. And no matter how much he tries to date other women, Ziva is always there. And even when she was gone she was there, on his mind all the time.
With every episode I feel more and more bad and sad for Tony.
This new thing with Wendy. I just don't see it being good in the long run. :-/

And Ziva is showing little to no emotion. I know it's not easy to let go cos of her past relationships but for FFS don't be so dismissive either. She closed herself off completely.
We've had now so many people tell Tony about his feelings for Ziva. It's time someone does the same to Ziva!!

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Re: 9.15 Secrets **Spoilers**
« Reply #25 on Feb 17, 2012, 3:24am »

Hmmm I've always though Gibbs relationship with Tony , Ziva and to a lesser degree Tim is that of a very close uncle that in many ways Gibbs has become a surrogate father and wants what best for them. A not to uncommon occurrence where Gibbs grew up in the Pennsylvanian coal country for a father to be killed in the mines and a uncle/grandfather would step up to become the father figure. Tony being raised by a adult child with no real male role model and especially Ziva being raised by a father who at times seems to be a not so border line psychopathic personality (sorry Gibbs haters compared to Ziva's dad Gibbs is a pussycat) Gibbs is stable and like a good father cares for her unconditionally same goes with Tony and Tim. And this why Gibbs has tolerated repeated massive screw ups over the years where any average boss would have fired them but like a good parent he turns them into life lessons and when necessary willing to forgive and forget. Yeah Gibbs can be hard to deal with at times but there no mistaking how much he cares and wants to protect Ziva, Tony and Tim when ever possible.

Next Tiva , yeah Gibbs knows Tony and Ziva have a "thing" for each other but he want to make sure before they start dating that their emotional decks are clear of any baggage that could doom there chance at happiness. That could wreck the team but more importantly bring more emotional damage to Ziva and Tony. So that why Gibbs forced Tony to deal with his ex fiancee to make him work though his unresolved feeling for Wendy . And as far as the rule about never dating co workers and we seen over the years Gibbs breaks his own rules and the world hasn't imploded . It just in general its a good idea because work place break ups can be so ugly but whats the statistic 50% of people in America meet there spouse at work or church...... hmmmm makes you wonder

Gibbs never find love again , well this is one time I have to disagree with ducky. Gibbs is a man in change starting the loss of his mentor mike in a tragic Shootist style end . But like real life producers have allowed Gibbs some happiness , the reconnection with Jackson his dad, near miss Lt Col Mann . The dreams he has of Shannon saying be happy, how much funny he has working with Special Agent Abigail Borin , etc... . Gibbs is re opening himself to the idea that he could find someone special to love . And I think that why he's have fun nudging Tony and Ziva together slowly baggage free. If and when Gibbs final melts and find his new lady love its going to be someone who is serious (ie no strippers) more like Navy Chaplin who was very shannonesk serious but had a very whimsical side that could make Gibbs laugh and feel happy. So fans don't be so shock if Gibbs finds love. At least that's my 2 cents

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Re: 9.15 Secrets **Spoilers**
« Reply #26 on Apr 21, 2012, 6:14pm »

I loved this episode
Love the scene between Tony and Ducky on Autopsy Room (and all the team interaction)
I laughed a lot

Dinozzo: "Before you judge, if things had gone differently, this could have been McGee" , (McGee’s face when Tony said that, it was hilarious)
I can´t see the episodes online anymore, so I’m a few episodes behind

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