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Post by sheep on Nov 28, 2007 1:51:31 GMT -5
Well, chemical straightening can last for weeks to months, but I can't see Ziva going to the salon to have it done. If you just use an iron, it lasts until you wash your hair (although it looks crappy if you sleep on it). I can't really see Ziva ironing every day either. Maybe her neighbors have a new baby that cries all night because it's colic-y and she just straightens her hair when she can't sleep. Yeah, officially thought too much on this topic.
Oh, and Meg, the thing about "My fingers are fingling" was fantastic! I thought he said tingling, but then I rewound and was even more amused.
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Post by shugo on Nov 28, 2007 2:04:35 GMT -5
Maybe she just stares at her hair and scares it straight
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Post by sheep on Nov 28, 2007 2:06:31 GMT -5
That I can see.
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Post by mchnelson on Nov 28, 2007 2:36:48 GMT -5
I think I need to watch this again nd pay more attention to the details. I have questions. So did the marine give himself the drugs to get into the marines, or did he just agree to the trial after being rejected at first? Did the guy with the earpiece really not know that they were experimenting with him, was it really only the orderly and who was asking him to give it to the patients, was the lady researcher who was doing all these good deeds on her days off, (was I the noly one who thought Gibbs interest in her was not just professional?) involved in the trials or not. Yes I really need to watch again tonight. Why are they showing two repeated episodes with Hollis in after last weeks episode???
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Post by mollokoplus on Nov 28, 2007 10:13:00 GMT -5
Maybe she just stares at her hair and scares it straight Gives new meaning to "scared straight."
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Post by 88keys on Nov 28, 2007 12:34:16 GMT -5
I don't think that was because he didn't trust them. I think he just didn't want to put them in unceccesary danger. It was kind of his fight, you know? The case was extremely personal to him, and he didn't want to involve the team any more than they already were.
No. I don't think any Marine would see civilians in the same leauge as their fellow Marines, particularly if they were in combat. I think Gibbs respects his team, but he still sees them as people he needs to protect. People talk about the Gibbs/Tony father son relationship- I think Gibbs feels somewhat fatherly towards the whole team, not just Tony.
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Post by Sandy on Nov 28, 2007 15:27:32 GMT -5
Yeah ,I've seen that too. Here is a capture I've just made. Here That's funny to see those kind of stuff. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2007 15:27:39 GMT -5
I agree with that 88Keys. It's like Ducky said on Enigma, "He's willing to risk his own life and reputation to help a friend, but he's not going to risk yours." It's not that he doesn't trust them, he just won't put them at risk for something personal. Which again ties into the second part of your post.
With the Marines, they're all more or less equals, but I do think Gibbs considers the team more a group he has to protect. And I think he even still puts Jen in that designation if you look at Brothers in Arms. It doesn't matter that she's now his boss - she was once a member of his team and to him that means that it's his responsibility to look out for her, not the other way around. And it will probably always be that way.
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Post by celestial on Nov 28, 2007 15:33:44 GMT -5
Yeah ,I've seen that too. Here is a capture I've just made. Here That's funny to see those kind of stuff. ;D Thanks for the cap Sandy. It appears to say 'Order my cliffs notes on the script.' And that MW has some cute handwriting. I bet they find a way to erase that digitally before the DVD release... someone at the production office is reading this board and smacking him/herself on the forehead. I bet they didn't think anyone would notice. Fortunately, we are all obsessive have sharp eyes. Still thinking about the Werth situation... on the one hand, he deserved the Silver Star for saving those guys, but on the other hand, he probably has a court martial coming for, you know, all the drug use. I'm assuming that the two cancel each other out. So what I'm wondering is (and navyresgirl can probably answer this) what kind of discharge will he receive? Dishonorable, honorable, medical or is there another kind I'm not aware of?
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Post by celestial on Nov 28, 2007 17:23:52 GMT -5
I feel sorry for him, he didn't do anything bad... he just wanted to be a Marine. He wasn't selling drugs, and he save his men. I know that you can have bad consequences - and it could have been bad, it was for the interrogators - but he was such a sweet guy. This episode reminded me of Family Secret and the ensuing debate: does the end justify the means? I think you could make a case for rationalizing Werth's steroid use (even if it was illegal and/or not military approved) but only up to the point when he lost it and started endangering other people. And I think it's a safe assumption that his military career is over, which is a shame, but I really don't see how he could stay in the Marines. At least Werth didn't turn into a crazy sniper when he was rejected from the Marines (yes, I did just watch One Shot One Kill yesterday).
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Post by sheep on Nov 28, 2007 17:44:44 GMT -5
I feel sorry for him, he didn't do anything bad... he just wanted to be a Marine. He wasn't selling drugs, and he save his men. I know that you can have bad consequences - and it could have been bad, it was for the interrogators - but he was such a sweet guy. I think I'm a little unclear on how this all went down...I know he gave himself the steroids and the masking agents, and that he was exhibiting signs of PTSD before he got to Bethesda. But I also thought there was some kind of interaction with the meds he was getting that kind of pushed him over the top, or that the orderly was giving him something in addition. Hm - a shame I might have to just rewatch...
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Post by navyresgirl on Nov 28, 2007 20:46:19 GMT -5
From Celestial: Still thinking about the Werth situation... on the one hand, he deserved the Silver Star for saving those guys, but on the other hand, he probably has a court martial coming for, you know, all the drug use. I'm assuming that the two cancel each other out. So what I'm wondering is (and navyresgirl can probably answer this) what kind of discharge will he receive? Dishonorable, honorable, medical or is there another kind I'm not aware of?
Me: I wasn't in legal but it looks like he might receive what is called a General Under Honorable discharge. It's not the regular Honorable discharge and it's not Dis-honorable
(Sorry, don't know how to do the quote thing with just part of the post.)
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Post by celestial on Nov 28, 2007 20:52:30 GMT -5
nrg: you have to quote the entire thing, and then delete out the part you don't want. (As far as I know. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?) Anyway, thanks for the info. Is that sort of a neutral way of discharging someone from the military? Because Dishonorable seems a bit harsh (he did save three people) but Honorable might not go over well with whoever decides these things... the Switzerland response seems appropriate here.
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Post by Michele on Nov 29, 2007 0:28:19 GMT -5
Hey does anyone know where I can find pictures or a video of Tony on the painkillers?
Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2007 0:43:25 GMT -5
Speaking of painkillers - McGee acted fairly normal and I would think that with a dislocated shoulder he'd have to be on some. So does he just have a high tolerance for medication or does Tony have a low tolerance? (Or is McGee like me and can't take anything stronger than over-the-counter and have it stay down?)
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