Rate 7.16 Mother's Day

[AngelZ]

How did you rate Rate 7.16 Mother's Day? Scores out of 10 please.






Disclaimer: For your own sanity, do not try to make sense of the rating definitions!

[Mikki]

9.0, it was overall a good episode.


The slap to Gibbs was mostly a shocker, but like I said in the Spoiler Topic, it was a tear jerking episode.


Did Like:

Gena Rowland, her acting was superb.
Ms. Hart, even though I'm not a fan, she was great. Didn't know she was going to be in the episode, but maybe I'm blind.
Slap, like I said, it was a shocker. o.o

The Tony and Ziva scene in "Arizona" where they find Hendricks,

Tony: Well done.
Ziva: Why thank you.
Tony: Not you, him.

( Found that cute. XD)

[navyresgirl]

10!
I couldn't find anything NOT to like and didn't budge from in front of my TV even during the commercials.

Gena Rowlands was as perfectly cast as Michael Nouri, Ralph Waite and RJ Wagner.

Even with Gibbs telling him he could "get out" I'm glad that it was Tony that found him in a vulnerable state and he quietly left him alone.

Jimmy's got a girlfriend - let's hope she doesn't turn out to be an assassin like Tim's last honey or a traitor like HIS last honey.

Vance and Gibbs once again having something going on (wink wink, nudge nudge, Bob's your Uncle) when they hoodwinked the civilian detective.

Mother-In-Law/Son-In-Law shared pain.

will add more after I re-watch once it's posted on-line.

[celestial]

Ugh. I am getting so sick of Gibbs' vigilante justice. Apparently it's okay to murder one guy and frame another as long as you've got, y'know, a really good reason. And "They were in the drug trade and so was the guy who killed my daughter" is clearly a good reason.

I gave it a 3.

[Phil]

Mar 2, 2010 22:34:07 GMT -5 celestial said:

Ugh. I am getting so sick of Gibbs' vigilante justice. Apparently it's okay to murder one guy and frame another as long as you've got, y'know, a really good reason. And "They were in the drug trade and so was the guy who killed my daughter" is clearly a good reason.

I gave it a 3.

Agreed. Usually, they put people who did this sort of thing in jail, but since it's Gibbs, the rules get thrown out. Very disappointed.

[dani]

Mar 3, 2010 9:56:35 GMT -5 Phil said:

Mar 2, 2010 22:34:07 GMT -5 celestial said:

Ugh. I am getting so sick of Gibbs' vigilante justice. Apparently it's okay to murder one guy and frame another as long as you've got, y'know, a really good reason. And "They were in the drug trade and so was the guy who killed my daughter" is clearly a good reason.

I gave it a 3.

Agreed. Usually, they put people who did this sort of thing in jail, but since it's Gibbs, the rules get thrown out. Very disappointed.

Gibbs did the exact same thing Joanne did-he took the law in his own hands.He killed the real murder of his family,Joanne killed someone,who was not responsible for Kelly's and Shanon's deaths, but still,what Gibbs did was not right-that's why, from my POV, he let Joanne get away with murder-he just can't judge her for something he did himself. That's why he let go the father in "Tribes" ,who killed the murder of his son. Vance didn't have the same reasons to let Joanne go free,like Gibbs- he had to follow the law,but he didn't-and exactly that bothers me.

[sneaky0ninja0chick]

Dissapointed as well. I gave it a 5. Great Jimmy scenes, but that couldn't make up for the fact that they let the killer get away!

Its like in the world of NCIS they can pick and choose who they put away, which sends a really skewed message about their version 'case closed' and maybe even more about their ideas on justice. It's almost like when Hart accused Gibbs of having no respect for the law.

[AngelZ]

I gave it a 7 to go along along with the Se7enish baked private investigator.

I've never been one to love the soppy back-story eps (that's just personal taste) so I tried not to judge this too harshly.

I do however wish Hart would go away

[pbb]

5, lowest rate ever by far.

I'm sure this will come back to Gibbs, by Hart, Vance or his own team.

[swingcat]

I was really loving this episode, it was heading for a 9.5 or 10 , up until the 'let the guilty go free moment' and 'well he is a drug dealer so lets put him in the frame for murder as well.'

Ok I can understand that he wanted to protect Joanne but I can see this coming back to bite him in the a*se big time. Although probably not cause that would be the end of Gibbs' career and the end of the show.

Also what did they do with the evidence, spatter pattens don't lie and Abbey, Ducky, Vance, Hart, too many people know.

Anyway while I enjoyed the episode over all points had to be deducted for the conclusion so gave it a 7

And Go Jimmy!! Whoo hoo ;D

[navyresgirl]

Apr 15, 2010 17:23:22 GMT -5 swingcat said:

I was really loving this episode, it was heading for a 9.5 or 10 , up until the 'let the guilty go free moment' and 'well he is a drug dealer so lets put him in the frame for murder as well.'

Ok I can understand that he wanted to protect Joanne but I can see this coming back to bite him in the a*se big time. Although probably not cause that would be the end of Gibbs' career and the end of the show.

Also what did they do with the evidence, spatter pattens don't lie and Abbey, Ducky, Vance, Hart, too many people know.

Anyway while I enjoyed the episode over all points had to be deducted for the conclusion so gave it a 7

And Go Jimmy!! Whoo hoo ;D

It took me a couple of viewings to realize that Vance and Gibbs weren't going to turn over manufactured evidence (to JAG) that the Lt killed the "fiance", just the evidence that he was eyeball high in drug dealing.

I'm wondering if there won't be some further evidence that though Joanne had blood evidence on her clothes she didn't actually do it or that if she did she was threatened into it.
With more of the Mexican drug trade/Col Bell story coming up, I wouldn't be surprised if there is more to Gibbs "letting her off" than meets the eye.

Does that help at all?

[swingcat]

Thanks navyresgirl... you are probably right. I will need to give it another viewing.. ohhh the things we do .. LOL

Yes everything you say makes perfect sense, I still think she committed the murder although I would be very happy if we discovered that she didn't do it.

Thanks again for your thoughts .. as I said I think you are very much spot on

[navyresgirl]

Apr 16, 2010 0:24:44 GMT -5 swingcat said:

Thanks navyresgirl... you are probably right. I will need to give it another viewing.. ohhh the things we do .. LOL

Yes everything you say makes perfect sense, I still think she committed the murder although I would be very happy if we discovered that she didn't do it.

Thanks again for your thoughts .. as I said I think you are very much spot on

Another thought - Gibbs very deliberately asked Joann if she was smart enough to "do this" (track down Joe and the Lt) on her own. I think he knows she wasn't. Someone tracked HER down and manipulated her to get to Gibbs and I think that someone was Col Bell.
I do think Joann pulled the trigger but someone else was pulling the strings and I'm looking forward to Gibbs doing something about it.

[Phil]

I think you're forgetting that they established she'd spent almost 30 grand in her three plus year search (through the PI who Tony & Ziva found in Arizona) for someone tied to Shannon & Kelly''s death. The woman was guilty as sin and it'll be a major eye-rolling moment if they pull out the "she was manipulated" card. Gibbs' comment about her not being smart enough to pull this off was clearly an attempt on his part to justify his actions when he knew she was guilty.

[navyresgirl]

Apr 16, 2010 11:51:51 GMT -5 Phil said:

I think you're forgetting that they established she'd spent almost 30 grand in her three plus year search (through the PI who Tony & Ziva found in Arizona) for someone tied to Shannon & Kelly''s death. The woman was guilty as sin and it'll be a major eye-rolling moment if they pull out the "she was manipulated" card. Gibbs' comment about her not being smart enough to pull this off was clearly an attempt on his part to justify his actions when he knew she was guilty.

No, I'm not forgetting that. I simply believe there is more to this story than meets the eye.