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Post by Lelu on Apr 19, 2011 17:16:58 GMT -5
Love Gibbs that's great, but those of us who don't Love Gibbs and aren't willing to give him a free pass as also entitled to our opinion. I love Gibbs. That's why I was more than disappointed in him regarding his actions during this episode - plus his actions toward EJ from the very beginning. I blame most of the antagonism during the episode on Vance, who should have let Gibbs know what was going on the minute he knew that Balfour was probably one of the P2P victims. I'm not excusing Gibbs' or EJ's behavior in the interrogation room at all. They were both unprofessional and what made it worse was that they were acting that way in front of a very viable suspect. EJ did not behave in the most professional manner I agree. As a caveat though if another Tram Leader came in and tried to intimidate the lead interrogator in an important case in front of the witness in a very demeaning way I would have totally blown a gasket; I think in the circumstances EJ smells like a rose and Gibbs smells like fertilizer. (please forgive the massive run on sentence) Because for all his years at NCIS Gibbs is just a Team Leader other than years of being a bully he has no rank on EJ. It's always been my opinion that a good team leader leads by earned respect not fear
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Post by Lelu on Apr 19, 2011 9:22:12 GMT -5
I have a habit of imagining myself as a character who is challenging or even threatening Gibbs (ie he lays a hand on me yada yada) or whatever and some times i imagine myself arguing with him and it sound great but when it is on screen it didn't seem to work as wel. I didn't Like Mann because she was obnoxious and controlling and brought her "relationship" into the office. EJ was out of line and very obnoxious these last few episodes. It means SJM is doing her job. I am not going to apologize for liking Gibbs. Do I think he was being a jerk or out of bounds in the last episodes? Yes. Does it mean I am blind no. THere are other aspects of him I do like and there is nothing wrong with that but I resent terrible the pot shots from others that are towards the characters or to posters who like the characters and their reasons Love Gibbs that's great, but those of us who don't are also entitled to our opinion.
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Post by Lelu on Apr 18, 2011 19:06:00 GMT -5
LOL You aren't going to like anyone that challenges the sainted Gibbs, I happen to like strong women. Gibbs acts like an a** and complete jerk he gets a pass, a woman being a strong and willing to be a biatch at times is an annoying twit PoTato PotAto. kettle black. name your cliche' LMAO!!! When did I ever say that I don't like anyone that challenges Gibbs? I've liked plenty of characters that have gone against Gibbs (both men and women). Sorry, if I refuse to like a character that is solely portrayed as a sniveling twit! If this is a strong woman, I wouldn't want to see what a weak woman character would be like. JMO. Almost every female character on the show is weak, but we don't agree so leave it at that,
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Post by Lelu on Apr 18, 2011 12:55:15 GMT -5
LOL You aren't going to like anyone that challenges the sainted Gibbs, I happen to like strong women. Gibbs acts like an a** and complete jerk he gets a pass, a woman being a strong and willing to be a biatch at times is an annoying twit PoTato PotAto. kettle black. name your cliche' ;D You have a valid point - some people defend Gibbs no matter what he does. I just don't see EJ as a "strong woman." I think she's SUPPOSED to be. I just think the writer's have done an extremely bad job of portraying her as such. Even with Tony she acts more like a teenager with her boyfriend than an equal. EJ is suffering from what I call the "Kate Syndrome." The writers have fallen down on the job of getting across to us [the viewers] who she is really supposed to be. They did it all the time with Kate. That is so true, but I've railed against the writers of this show from the beginning on their lack of skills in writing female characters.
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Post by Lelu on Apr 17, 2011 23:22:47 GMT -5
Gibbs may act difficult, but to me he doesn't come across as a spoiled little brat like EJ does. It's not because EJ is a woman, it's because she is an annoying twit and that would have shone through even if the character had been a man. LOL You aren't going to like anyone that challenges the sainted Gibbs, I happen to like strong women. Gibbs acts like an a** and complete jerk he gets a pass, a woman being a strong and willing to be a biatch at times is an annoying twit PoTato PotAto. kettle black. name your cliche'
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Post by Lelu on Apr 17, 2011 10:11:02 GMT -5
EJ acts the same way as Gibbs, but in a woman it's somehow offensive. Don't get that.
Blue Eye... Stan Burley
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Post by Lelu on Apr 13, 2011 19:14:31 GMT -5
Whoever the eye belongs to, I am assuming has accessed MTAC fairly recently. I'm assuming that if an agent was missing or dead (and how come nobody is looking for this person if they are?) then their MTAC access would be revoked from the system. No sense in keeping everyone's retinal scans in there - and MTAC access seems to be available only to certain people anyway. Oh wait, I'm thinking like this is Real NCIS and not Show NCIS. Well it's kinda like the removable face thing, which I'm still laughing over, because none of the other team members have had a problem getting into MTAC whenever the "story" calls for it, it's a device poorly used.
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Post by Lelu on Apr 12, 2011 23:42:41 GMT -5
The plot was the guy with the removable face. What happened to the dead Lt in the park and someone stealing the codes? Face changing man? Laugh out loud silly.
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Post by Lelu on Mar 29, 2011 20:09:09 GMT -5
Plan Nine From Outer Space. It made about as much sense.
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Post by Lelu on Jan 26, 2011 18:39:41 GMT -5
I never cared for that episode either to tell you the truth lol You guys are forgetting something very very important: Tony wore the shoulder holster in Call of Silence.Oh yeah!
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Post by Lelu on Jan 26, 2011 15:18:45 GMT -5
I liked the episode a lot, and I had no idea who Bob Newhart was ( I still don't ). I don't have a relative that has Alzheimer's disease, but I think it was nice that they tried to remind Dr Magnus of who he was and what he had accomplished in his life. What I kept from that scene was that they cared enough to do that, even if in the end he probably wouldn't remember it. Nice song too. And it's not that bad if the producers or the writers cast people to get more viewers IMO. They're in show-biz, which by definition is a business, not a charity ;D And, since the ratings are constantly going up, it looks like they are doing a pretty good job at it. As long as they don't forget what this show is about, I am fine with it. Just as long as you remember that popular does not necessarily equate with good.
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Post by Lelu on Jan 24, 2011 18:18:27 GMT -5
See, I don't know Bob Newhart from Adam so all that stuff you guys picked up on was completely lost to me. I thought from the start that his stuttering and befuddledness would lead to something like Alzheimers. I had no clue that it was similar to what he had done in the past. RJ to me is the perfect casting for Tony's dad. They work off each other fantastically and the resemblance is credible as well. I object to calling every instance of bringing in a well-known actor/actress as stunt casting. I mean, what are those people supposed to do—never play another role? If the casting is done because the actor would work great as that character (as is the case with RJ and DiNozzo Sr IMO) it's just good casting. If the name of the actor is all that matters and they can't pull off the character that's BS of course. I couldn't get into this episode really, don't know why. I'll have to rewatch it later and see if I just wasn't in a good mood or if it is the episode. It certainly isn't one of my favorites though. Well I don't think that every instance of a well know actor being cast is stunt casting. Charles Durning is a very well know actor and his casting as Ernie Yost was anything but stunt casting. Stunt casting to me is a well known actor being cast and playing to type which was Bob Newhart in this role to me. I agree SG the way the character was presented led to the eventual denouement. The end was like a "very special after school presentation" Robert Wagner I just have never liked, he has a smarmy unctuous type of (?charm?) that makes me feel slimy. He was fine as the elder Di'Nozzo which I guess is appropriate as he was both smarmy and slimy. Con man to the max, which is playing to type so maybe it is stunt casting, LOL I don't know
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Post by Lelu on Jan 24, 2011 14:52:00 GMT -5
Tweeter, I was okay with the character until they had to throw in the telephone comedy routine he's done for years. At that point the character lost relevance. He became Bob Newhart. I agree to a point. I heard that Mark suggested they put a phone thing in and BN said to wait and see if it would be more organic (or something like that). I think that it was only jarring to people that are familiar with his early career and his "trademark" routine. Just like casting Robert Wagner would have been stunt casting, but since I don't know if many people know MW played RW in a biopic (even RW didn't know), it squeezes out of that category for me. I didn't think that RW was a stunt cast. I would have preferred another actor just because I'm not a big fan of RW never have been. The only thing I ever really liked him in was It Takes a Thief, which was okay and then there was Switch which was another version ITAT and a complete ripoff of a wonderful show called the Rogues. As far as Bob Newhart, I agree people who are not familiar with his comedic style could could completely buy into the character. Even though I never really watched his show the general befuddlement of his character just rolled over into this role on NCIS.
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Post by Lelu on Jan 23, 2011 14:10:51 GMT -5
I rarely post here anymore, or log in even. Lots of reasons, I suppose, but I had to comment on this episode. I absolutely loved it. Loved it and place it high enough to be listed with Call of Silence as one of my favorite episodes. There's stunt casting, i.e. hiring Justin Bieber to get the tween audience, and casting a television icon and putting him in a role outside his normal familiar character. At first it seemed like the same old Bob Newhart, but then that trademark stammer and puzzled look became deeper, more distracted, more zoned-out and confused. I felt it was a wonderful performance and was quite moving. David's reactions, frustration at not knowing where Magnus had gone; concern at his state of mind; and finally, sadness but determination to help, was played beautifully. I thought the DADT theme was also well-done and subtle. It could have been a disaster, and I was so afraid they'd have Tony make some homophobic comment (remembering when they made him seem a little xenophobic in the one episode about "soul mates" that I rarely, if ever, rewatch). The sight (and sound) of Gibbs and Tony singing Wheels on the Bus was so wonderful. I love that. I won't go on, mainly because I keep getting interrupted and have to log off, but suffice it to say, I loved this episode. Edited (eating lunch now, so I have time): For me, another perfect example of stunt casting would be if they hired Robert Vaughn, which is why I always cringe when people suggest it. Tweeter, I was okay with the character until they had to throw in the telephone comedy routine he's done for years. At that point the character lost relevance. He became Bob Newhart.
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Post by Lelu on Jan 23, 2011 14:04:37 GMT -5
Seriously Cesetial and Lelu why do you guys watch NCIS if you hate it as much as you guys seem too? Its a great mystery to me? You both abjectly hate Gibbs and he is the central character of the show so why watch? I am seriously baffled ? I felt this way towards LOST , gave it up and I had so much less stress and spent that hour of the week view something I really enjoyed. Oh well This is pretty much the reason I don't comment anymore. Anyone with a serious negative criticism gets attacked for not absolutely adoring the show. I don't hate the show, I just refuse to fawn uncritically. We all watch for our own reasons.
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