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Post by AngelZ on Nov 15, 2011 17:50:08 GMT -5
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Post by Lelu on Nov 15, 2011 23:23:38 GMT -5
Uneven but acceptable. The girl school subplot... totally stinky. As I have said before I am not happy with the demonization of Muslims as nut job terrorists. One could say the same about clinic bombing doctor murdering fundamentalist Christians
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Post by jo on Nov 16, 2011 8:38:14 GMT -5
9.5. Excellent episode.
Tony's talk with God was so ... Tony.
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Post by navyresgirl on Nov 16, 2011 15:24:51 GMT -5
8.0
Felt a bit flat to me. The emotional moments were glossed over - except for Gibbs finding out about his friend Joan and then at her grave.
Found it very odd that Gibbs wouldn't be wearing a helmet during the rescue mission.
Found it just as odd that Ziva was giving he "Go" order to the Marines on the rescue mission. Sorry, but no way.
In Gibbs absence I'd hoped for a Tony/Abby scene but it seems they're gone for good. Their prior friendship has been sacrificed for no discernible reason.
Did love Tony's one-sided conversation with God and hope that we'll find out what his "Bargain" was.
Loved we FINALLY got a mention of the events in Nature of the Beast.
Little girl sensing than he needed a hug was priceless.
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Post by AngelZ on Nov 16, 2011 18:13:43 GMT -5
An 8 for me too. Last week's worked because they didn't deviate too much from the main story. It was concentrated and intense. This week the Gibbs storyline and Tony's would have been enough. Ziva's role could have been cut back. Love MW, but I think his 'talk' was over baked. Why was he yelling in the Chapel? For me it would have been more powerful (and less seemingly tlike an attempt to lighten the mood) if delivered with a little more subtlety. While I understand that the director was probably trying to balance the Afghanistan scenes, Tony is often overused as the comic relief. Gibbs an Ziva leading the raid  that's just silly |
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Post by jo on Nov 17, 2011 9:01:21 GMT -5
I know this isn't the discussion thread, but I wanted to respond to a couple of AZ's thoughts.
I agree that Gibbs/Ziva leading the raid was silly. I've noticed that in all the shows where this kind of thing happens -- your main characters are gonna be in the lead, whether it's their "place" or not. So I guess I just ignore it anymore.
I didn't get why Ziva was so ... touched ... by the Sarge. Gibbs stops after he's hit, Ziva leads the charge - but then she won't leave his side when he's dying. I'm not saying she shouldn't have felt anything, but I think her part was overplayed - considering this is Ziva we're talking about. It didn't seem 'real' to me.
Tony's talk with God. I think he liked the way his voice sounded - alone in the sanctuary - when he walked in and called for the Chaplain. So I think he began talking just to hear himself - and it was somewhat humorous, but I felt he became serious - more serious than usual. I thought we were getting more insight into Tony's character than we have for a long time.
What I found funny was his hasty exit when he realized the C was there.
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that's just silly